An important conversation
Over the last few weeks, an important conversation has been taking place in the climbing community around sexual abuse, safety, and accountability. With the recent high-profile and horrifying cases of convicted sexual abuser Charlie Barrett and several other predators in the climbing world, we recognize this is an extremely sensitive and critical issue. It pains us to know that discussions around one of our films that is currently in production have stirred up trauma and anger among some SA survivors and advocates. We hear the voices of those who have spoken out and we take these concerns very seriously.
The film in question is called The Cobra and the Heart, and is set to be released this spring as part of Reel Rock 19. It tells a story that began twenty years ago, with Swiss climber Didier Berthod’s legendary failure on a project called Cobra Crack. That moment was featured on the very first Reel Rock Tour, and we’ve been following his journey ever since. It’s a saga that includes a whirlwind romance, starting in 2005, between Didier and the Canadian boulderer Thomasina Pidgeon; Didier’s decision, following a devastating injury, mental breakdown, and religious transformation, to abandon Thomasina - who was pregnant with their child - and spend the next decade in a Christian cult; Thomasina’s struggle to raise her daughter as a single mom living the nomadic life of a full time climber on the road; And Didier’s eventual determination to leave the church, face his mistakes, and attempt to reconnect with his estranged family, and with climbing.
The issue that has come under scrutiny is the inclusion of Thomasina Pidgeon in the film, given her past support for Charlie Barrett. He was someone she considered a friend for decades, who had supported her during her toughest times on the road. When Barrett was convicted on rape charges, Thomasina, at the urging of Barrett’s friends and family, wrote a character reference letter on his behalf for consideration in his sentencing. The letter was based on Thomasina’s personal experience with Barrett over many years. In June, 2024, Barrett was sentenced to life in prison. When the official court records were released, Thomasina’s letter was made public, along with similar letters from several other respected climbers. She has also been called out for subsequent comments that could be seen as supportive of Barrett, or questioning the fairness of his trial.
Following our announcement of the film’s upcoming release, there have been strong reactions from some SA survivors and allies about our decision to include Thomasina in the Reel Rock 19 lineup, as part of The Cobra and the Heart. To be clear, our film does not involve Charlie Barrett or address issues of abuse in any way. But some have called for Reel Rock to be more cautious about who we feature in our films.
We have been reflecting internally about questions of accountability and responsible storytelling, and we are engaging in conversations with survivors, advocates, and partners. This process has helped us recognize the pervasiveness of sexual abuse in the climbing world, and it’s reinforced our commitment to building a safer, more inclusive community for all climbers.
We’ve also been communicating with Thomasina to understand her thinking around the issue. She has expressed that she’s been going through a gradual and painful process of realizing that she’d been lied to, deceived, and manipulated by Barrett for many years. She described tough conversations with concerned friends who helped her see things from a different perspective. And she recently released a public statement acknowledging her mistakes and apologizing to survivors.
We respect that with the sensitivity of this issue, some folks who are close to it may prefer not to watch The Cobra and the Heart. But from our perspective as filmmakers, this project is aligned with our longstanding commitment to telling complex human stories that are rooted in climbing, but also transcend climbing. This film in particular addresses themes of human fallibility, forgiveness, and trying to do better, all of which seem especially relevant in light of this ongoing conversation.
We deeply appreciate the brave and selfless work of survivors and allies who are standing up and raising their voices to demand change. By speaking out, they have created the opportunity for growth and learning in our community. Thank you for making us more aware of, and sensitive to the concerns, fears, and frustrations of those whose voices have often been silenced. We hear you, we believe you, and we stand with you.
—The Reel Rock team
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I’m pretty disappointed in this “apology” honestly, but I feel like other comments have pointed out how toothless it is, so I won’t say anything else about that specifically. However, it may be worth thinking about this – what if Thomasina was a man? Would he be forgiven because he was just lied to and that’s it? Would an apology months later (say, right before the screenings were about to start like January 15th or something) just make that go away? Or would that man simply be seen as an apologist for a rapist?
So I think plenty of folks tend to see Thomasina, a woman, as someone who was just hoodwinked by Charlie, because women “could never support rape culture”. But she did. And I feel like Thomasina had plenty of time, opportunity, and space to actually apologize to the victims and publicly retract her letter. She never did. In fact, it seems like she never intended to say anything until this film was coming out. That feels really gross to me, and seems like nothing was actually learned/heard from the survivors. So if this film makes it into ReelRock 19, I certainly won’t attend the premier and I can’t say I’ll ever watch it online either. To support “The Cobra and the Heart” feels like the opposite of progress.
What would make you look best, most compassionate, & caring would be to bite the bullet & take the story out of the tour. Then you don’t need to explain anything. Everyone will hear you loud & clear.
As a survivor of sexual abuse and rape this as most have stated is dismissive of what one goes through after these experiences. Very few know and by posting I publicly expose myself to the potential for more harm. I dont know this story well, however, the above isnt an apology it’s that you care more about your profits or image than what fractures a survivors life. This type of violation changes have even mundane things are perceived and varies from person to person. Exploiting another is wrong, exploiting a person’s perhaps most devastating moments is as vile as being the one to cause them. As Dolly Parton said of changing the name of Dixie stampede to just stampede “when you know better you do better- this (dixie) was offensive because of its history so I removed it from the name”. Do better- you say you know better now prove it and put those violated first.
As long as we are defending ourselves, we are not learning, reel rock.
A defensive position is always a sign of healing that still needs to happen, of fragility. On the opposite side is an embodied strength of a leader in the community who LEARNS from their mistakes, and not only apologizes but also ACTS from the place of humility and love.
I’d like to ask that you seize the opportunity to be a thought leader in the climbing community, own up to your ignorance, examine the patriarchal bs that’s still running in your company and take appropriate action to repair.
If you so, you’ll become an inspiration for the whole industry. This is your chance.
As one of the victims who testified at Charles Barrett’s 2024 trial, I feel compelled to address Reel Rock’s blog post. Not only does it fail to acknowledge the real harm they are perpetuating, but it also serves as an example of exactly what not to do when responding to a crisis involving survivors of sexual violence.
Let’s be clear: The outrage over Reel Rock’s decision to feature Thomasina Pidgeon in The Cobra and the Heart is not due to concern about “complex human stories” or “themes of fallibility and forgiveness.” This is about accountability.
It’s about understanding how platforming someone who publicly defended a convicted serial sexual abuser after his conviction sends a message to survivors. And that message is loud and clear: Your pain is secondary to our film.
This isn’t a matter of a “gradual and painful process” of realization for Pidgeon. She wrote a character reference for Barrett, not before his trial but after he was convicted of two counts of aggravated sexual abuse and one count of abusive sexual contact.
This wasn’t an abstract accusation. It wasn’t a case of “he said, she said.” It was a conviction in a court of law based on overwhelming evidence and survivor testimony—including mine.
And yet, despite everything, she used her voice to advocate for him. She told people she believed Barrett’s victims weren’t credible.
Only after public outrage did Pidgeon issue an apology on Instagram. Her response appears more about saving face than taking real accountability. Yet Reel Rock has chosen to amplify her voice while the voices of those she discredited, the real victims, remain ignored.
Now, Reel Rock is using its platform to rehabilitate her image while the victims she undermined are left to deal with the consequences.
In this response, Reel Rock sidesteps responsibility, cloaking it in vague language about “growth” and “learning” while avoiding the fundamental issue: why did you choose to elevate someone who actively undermined victims of sexual violence?
As a PR professional with nearly 30 years of experience, I am stunned at how poorly Reel Rock has handled this. If their goal was to engage in an “important conversation,” they have failed at every turn. Here’s why:
🛑 They center their discomfort rather than survivor impact. Phrases like “It pains us to know…” and “We take these concerns seriously” are performative.
Pain is losing your safety, your livelihood, and your peace of mind after being sexually assaulted and then publicly harassed and repeatedly threatened by your abuser. Pain is reliving trauma while watching a major platform uplift someone who defended your abuser.
Reel Rock’s “pain” is a PR crisis of their own making.
🛑 They absolve themselves of responsibility. By saying, “Our film does not involve Charlie Barrett or address issues of abuse in any way,” they attempt to distance themselves from the reality that they are amplifying someone who publicly defended a convicted sexual abuser.
That is addressing issues of abuse—just in the worst way possible.
🛑 They frame Pidgeon’s actions as a “mistake” rather than a choice. Writing a character reference for someone convicted of aggravated sexual abuse and abusive sexual contact and whose decades of terrorizing and abusing women were outlined in a 12,000-word investigative piece isn’t an innocent misstep—it’s a conscious decision that has real-world consequences for survivors.
LET ME BE VERY CLEAR: She wasn’t deceived; she actively dismissed the voices of those Barrett harmed.
🛑 Reel Rock refuses to take action. A real commitment to accountability would mean acknowledging their mistake and making changes—not just releasing a statement full of vague platitudes. If Reel Rock really “stands with survivors,” they must show it. That means either removing Pidgeon from the film or explaining why they think featuring her is worth further harming survivors.
At the end of their statement, Reel Rock thanks survivors for “making them more aware” and “demanding change.” But what change are they actually making? So far, none. Instead, they ask survivors to accept harm in the name of “complex storytelling.”
I refuse to accept that. And any platform that supports survivors should refuse it, too.
I had to read this statement multiple times and am still in shock at how astounding it is. I cannot believe anyone would publish this – you either have an absolutely awful crisis PR firm (that last paragraph reads crisis PR firm BS) or you are incredibly callous and do not even recognize it.
At a bare minimum, this should be signed by the co-founders specifically and if there are others involved, it should absolutely list out who is signing off on this and not “The Reel Rock team” – If there weren’t so many disturbing things in this statement, I would be shocked at how cowardly this is but oh man, this is a real doozy.
Welp, let’s start from the top “Over the past few weeks, an important conversation has been taking place in the climbing community around sexual abuse, safety, and accountability.” The past few weeks? I am not even in the climbing community and know discussions have been pretty clear for almost 2 years at least. Where and between who are all these conversations? You say outward conversations, then talk about internal things – It sounds like most of you should go internally back into the womb and cook a little longer.
I am fucking deceased at the the audacity you have in saying the the film doesn’t deal with abuse in any way.
LOL – “So anyway, bruh, the plot is that this French-Swiss white boy who sounds like he has one of the Cluster B anti-social personality disorders and/or is the Antichrist gets a bad boo boo and packs a sad and is a coward and too stupid to wrap it up. So instead he abandons his pregnant girlfriend and joins a fraternal cult related to the Catholic Church or something (are Swiss cults neutral with the whole abuse thing or what? You know like they were during The Holocaust? LOL on riding for Palestine too – girl, just sit the fuck down). Then after 10 years, Swiss Diddy, is still self-absorbed and decides he should just go fuck with his baby momma who has no concept of who is dangerous to trust and thinks she is super radical but rides harder for white supremacy and loves violent men and cannot see she is in the cycle of abuse and this dude is fucking manipulative."
How about all of you maybe take a break from social media until you’ve gotten professional help from those who are qualified experts and who are licensed to diagnose you and help you understand why you have such a God-complex and think anyone gives a shit what you think about anything or that you’re interesting in any way.
Stop assuming you know what is good for victims-survivors or that you are helping by doing whatever you think is helpful without getting CONSENT or advice from experts and posting shit publicly unless the victim-survivors want you to to do that. It is up to the victim-survivors on what they want done here and I can serve as the intermediary between Reel Rock and bring in some other experts, the board (I assume there is one?), victim-survivors, other allies, Pigeon lady, etc.
Why don’t you start by someone making a GoFundMe and you can all donate and raise money for the victim-survivors so they can do whatever the fuck they want with it. Some want to go to the EVAWI conference, some may want to do some spa days and get away from this all, whatever they want.
I personally think the film is important for viewers as it sounds like a really good example of how fucked up some folks in this community are and sounds like it shows what abuse really looks like. I do not think either of two lovebirds should be in attendance (for sure not Swiss Diddy) and I would be so mortified if I was a co-founder or in an Executive position that I would be working on my resignation.
I do think those who attend should think about wearing Canadian Tuxedos and clown noses to show support for victim-survivors IF you actually do care. Just like Kendrick did at the Grammy’s when he won 5 Grammy’s for “Not Like Us” – everyone involved in this should be shamed and feel like the clowns that they are and give the victim-survivors a much needed laugh and support that is LONG overdue from so many in this community. Honk, honk, bozos.Thomasina, stick to bird law, and leave US law to the rest of us. Maybe check your website and the “About” section – girl, embarrassing. Also, your writing is cringe- I would get more intellectually out of and also prefer listening to the grass grow than having to hear your stream of consciousness.
DO NOT reach out to any victim-survivors and stop posting about this if you’re not really knowledgeable enough to do that. It is the year anniversary of the trial this week and no one needs you knob jobs causing more shitshows to clean up.
I am very familiar with the trial and was in attendance for parts of it and have read everything though am not familiar with the climbing community as much (I’ve learned a lot in the last 2 years) but could use some help with knowing more about the other letter writers.As for me – I was one of many victims in a criminal legal trial that took place in 2007 the summer after I graduated and my offender was a 23 YO track coach who is absolutely a sociopath and was sexually abusing multiple 16 year-olds, “dated” a 14 year-old and was grooming multiple 12-13 YO’s. In 2020, our head track coach and his boss and a PE teacher that had been there for 25 years was arrested for CSAM distribution and possession for 100K pictures and 40 videos of kids as young as 6. Turns out my Athletic Department was basically USA Gymnastics. I have dealt with the state’s/districts attorney before, federal prosecutors, the FBI, private investigators, my offender’s crazy mom who helped him flee the country to Russia before the verdict in 2007, appeals processes, public defenders, private defense attorneys, court reporters, blind experts, appeals, clemency petitions, and character references in both federal and state court, etc. I promise, I am much more of an expert than probably any of you.
Victim-survivors are all unique and do not all think the same about what is considered “justice” (I don’t think it is even a real concept), what terms they prefer, their experiences, what they need or want that is helpful to them after GBV, if they want to report or how they want to report, how they engage with the process, if they want to discuss their experiences, if they want to engage with other victim-survivors or advocacy work in the GBV space and what that looks like.
Let me correct some things for you all, the character reference letters are requested by the defense attorney and those who are typically asked to write them are usually asked only to describe what they knew of the person and not to say anything about the crimes themselves or what they think the sentencing should be. It is up to the judge’s discretion and to be clear, they did not influence the sentencing, but what they do show is who has either been groomed/manipulated and is vulnerable but also means well – life is extremely messy and my personal goal is to extend people grace as most of us are good and mean well but make mistakes.
My experience was that I have forgiven 3 people who wrote letters for the second offender because they have genuinely apologized and come to the table to help, have extreme humility, and who have been like rocks to me helping me (2 are Boomer, liberal white men and the other is a Boomer, conservative white man). Personally, I don’t want to be raging fucking mad all the time. It is fatiguing and I would rather reserve my energy for going after the enablers and other offenders who really need to meet the devil.
Unlike Swiss Diddy who I assume is the Cobra (he sure sounds like a fucking snake), many parents love their kids and it is hard to understand that the best thing for their children as sex offenders is yes, therapy and mental health care (all offenders DO need therapy) but many of them also need to be in prison. And the way they support them is to hold their children accountable and support them through that. If you do care about CB and know his family, you can help talk to them about not bothering victim-survivors and coming around to talking to some experts here to help them come around to this and actually help their son.
The US federal prosecutors are the most prestigious positions for criminal attorneys in the United States. And they have more resources than many state/district attorney’s offices so they can are able to bring in the best of the best as far as experts and they do not spend a ton of time prosecuting and prepping and putting the victim-survivors through this AND what bothers police and attorneys a ton is to falsely accuse or prosecute someone innocent especially of sex crimes. That trial was an absolute masterclass and CB received very effective counsel and reasonable doubt is a huge bar to prove and it should be if we are going to put people in prison. That jury was very diverse and they convicted on all counts and the judge sentenced him to life in prison because he followed the federal sentencing guidelines and did not find any of the letters to be something to consider in the sentencing.
If Thomasina and others want to run their mouths about the trial, let them, they all look so unbelievably stupid and no one fucking cares and their opinion doesn’t mean anything. I feel compassion for Thomasina and I hope she will really take this to heart but sometimes you need to get called out and embarrassed to understand what you’ve done. For her sake, I do hope she’s able to get professional help and experience what it is like to have an opinion that is correct at least once in her life. The letters are always a matter of public record though they redact the contact information for those that write them.
I really don’t know if I feel the same hope for whoever was involved in this statement – maybe you can get there but you’ve got a lot of work to do. You might consider a lobotomy or just you know getting lost at sea.
I grew up with an extremely violent father and also a lot of empathy and love and support and I am extremely empathetic but I can do scorched earth and be ruthless which I consider a great skill:
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That last paragraph is so fucking cheesy of this statement. The victim-survivors are more badass than you could ever even hope to be and they don’t owe you shit.
Try this instead, in the words of Kendrick, “Bitch, be HUMBLE. Bitch, SIT DOWN.” Get off your faux intellectualism BS and let the real organizers and radicals take over and give you a clinic here.
If I hear about anyone messing with a victim or doing anything to them especially if the victim asks them for boundaries and you are rude to them or completely disregard them and decide you know what is best you are going to understand what fuck around and find out is all about.
I can connect folks with Dr. Jim Tanner who is in Boulder and semi-retired but an expert on sex offenders and grooming:
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If you aren’t a victim, who have absolutely ZERO obligations here to anyone ever to do fucking anything, and actually give a shit about Thomasina, her apology is for sure genuine and she is clearly a victim of the cycle of abuse and DARVO from Swiss Diddy at the very least.
I think she is going to continue to need support and probably some help really continuing to get there. She definitely needs to be accountable and I hope she will actually continue to learn and move forward here but she doesn’t need to continuously just be shit on here by a bunch of hypocrites.
GBV is EVERYWHERE in this world. It is really difficult to reconcile someone who has been kind and there to you whether it was genuine or to groom the environment (my personal read is CB has severe mental health issues, psychosis, disassociating, etc.) during some of the most traumatic times of your life. It is actually very typical for things like this to happen to folks like Thomasina.
Unfortunately, there are tons of enablers who didn’t hold him accountable or get him the help he needed before so now instead of maybe a shorter jail sentence and treatment, he has to spend life in prison because he has shown time and time again that he is too dangerous to be in society. So maybe think about your role as enablers and bystanders instead of trying to do some “gotcha” BS on stuff you do not understand.
“It pains us to know that discussions around one of our films that is currently in production have stirred up trauma and anger among some SA survivors and advocates” – Unbelievable – do you think some “survivors and advocates” are the only people who care about gender based violence (GBV)?
Peace,
Annabelle
Reel Rock has been reflecting, engaging and communicating. That’s good.
You hear us, believe us and stand with us. Thank you.
However, there’s something very important missing here.
How do you plan to do better in the future?
Will you vet athletes before highlighting them?
Will you donate a percentage of the proceeds of this film to RAINN.org?
I’d appreciate hearing real actions you are going to take to combat this happening again.
As an acquaintance of one of Charlie’s victims I find this ‘sorry not sorry’ statement very offensive. You really couldn’t find another ‘complex human story rooted in climbing’? The sad reality is that his victims were part of the climbing community, and that was taken away from them. Releasing this film just excludes them again while glossing over an important and pervasive issue. Shame on you , and your BS ‘apology.’